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Post by Tim on Jul 9, 2007 23:38:44 GMT -5
I know no one really cares, but for the past few months I have been looking Austin St. John up on Google. I suppose the people that posted the foul, distasteful, and untrue statements are definitely not Power Ranger fans. According to them, Austin participated in adult films. As you can see in the YouTube videos of the 2007 Power Morphicon, he has been up to nothing of the sort. I know this is random, but I felt I needed to clear Austin's name if anyone did not see his interview at the Morphicon. It's all better now.
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Post by danni on Jul 11, 2007 14:57:46 GMT -5
OMG, those rumors were so stupid. But they were definitely PR fans that originated them, I mean who else would care? A lot of ASJ's fans probably like to think of him doing some gay porn! The guy really didn't look like him though, I don't think.
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Post by Richard on Jul 16, 2007 2:30:53 GMT -5
lol. I'm going to quote myself from the tagboard before going on. "To what Tim said on the messageboard, yeah.. it was crazy how crazy Austin St. John rumors went... I always doubted it though, since lack of evidence.. I have yet to hear something as crazy with Sentai.. longer history, more fans, more fanservice?"
What is this gay porn that everyone keeps watching with no name? Is it like a Paris Hilton thing or something? Eh.. anyone that only knows 3-4 words in the theme song could be spreading the rumor.. lol. I imagine anyone from Amour Divin could've...
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Post by danni on Jul 16, 2007 9:48:46 GMT -5
Okay, that was rude . . . I mean, gay doesn't automatically equal porn.
And neither one equals bad necessarily. I hate how people seem to think this rumor is so bad. I mean it's wrong, but hey someone saw the website or whatever, thought it looked like ASJ, and said, "Hey, I think ASJ is doing gay porn". I think it had to be a fan just cause who else would recognize him or think about it in the first place. It wasn't some malicious rumor they just decided to spread.
I've heard Carlos might have done some porn (from Myriah, I think?). That doesn't mean we're not fans. Hell, it could be true. Not a bad thing.
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Post by Sreym on Jul 16, 2007 9:55:55 GMT -5
Here's the evidence. Of course it's been disproven, especially with the Morphicon, but I never thought it looked like him in the first place . . . And as a warning, I can't guarantee there won't be any naked guys sidelining on this webpage. And don't go to "Pictures" if you don't wanna see more . . . seancody.com/page.php?frame=movie&tab=about&movie=309And I have to say I agree with Danni here, the rumor wasn't foul or distasteful. They didn't know it was false, they were just saying what they thought they knew, nothing wrong with that. And hey, if ASJ did want to do some porn, nothing really wrong with that either.
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Post by Richard on Jul 16, 2007 14:29:44 GMT -5
Eh.. from what I heard of the rumor it was gay porn and even you said it... I just found it weird.. 1) I & many people have never seen evidence till today (Thanks Sreym for the not so indecent picture btw.) and just assumed it to be true. 2) I doubt if there was evidence, people would actually be watching a video of it or something... Albeit, this is from the guy who watched the JDF & Alyson Kiperman episode of Undressed too many times... lol. 3) Lots of people look down as Power Rangers as a kids show & fad, and I'm sure non/former fans would have no problem spreading a rumor with no evidence..
I mean, it's not like it was on the news or anything, so no big harm done or anything, but I just think it's crazy a non-Power Ranger-like rumor would spread so quickly. I mean anyone remember like a couple months ago, when there was a news headline about a kid from the show that like did something horrible too (I think it was a murder or suicide or something). I mean, very few people, maybe like me, would actually remember minor characters like that. I'm sure lots of people would probably have misinterpreted it as original cast members having done something horrible after not reading what it was about. It just seems very desperate sometimes how people try and get information/"information" IMO and it can hurt. That's why journalists get busted and stuff... Lies can hurt.. The truth's the truth...
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Post by rach on Jul 16, 2007 18:42:45 GMT -5
Well, this is an interesting conversation. Most of these discussions are about whether or not the rumors are true, not debating the 'motive' or however you want to say it.
I don't really think the rumor had any potential to be hurtful, honestly. I remember when it all began and I never heard anyone trying to bash him or his career, it was seriously believed because everyone thought it looked like him, his voice was even very much like ASJ's. I heard it mostly from fans of his, and they were just interested in his career and why he'd make a choice like that. Some people took it too far, but like Myriah said, even if it was true, there's really nothing wrong with it. Gay porn is legal, and if he wanted it, I don't see the problem.
Not that I'm trying to say it was him, because of course we all know it isn't. But really, it's no worse than any other rumor about anything in their lives or careers.
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Post by danni on Jul 16, 2007 18:44:19 GMT -5
Eh.. from what I heard of the rumor it was gay porn and even you said it... Obviously it was gay porn, what difference does that make? I mean, it's the same as straight porn.
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Post by Sierra on Jul 16, 2007 21:05:11 GMT -5
First off, I believe it was a fan who unintentionally started this rumor, they were probably watching porn, who stumbled upon a pic while surfing the web, and thought: "Hey, that guy looks like ASJ!" So, out of curiousity, he/she posted a topic and asked if anyone else had seen it, and from there...well, the rest is history. Really, who else would've ever THOUGHT about it being ASJ? It would never occur to them as they watched a porn, and even if it did, I doubt they'd go online and post it somewhere. I definitely think it was a fan.
Like Sreym said, even if ASJ wasn't doing porn, it's not exactly something to bash him for...it's perfectly legal, though morally wrong in some people's eyes, but hey...no one is bashing Cerina Vincent for being naked throughout an entire movie, or filming graphic sex scenes...or even Amy Jo Johnson. No, they weren't REALLY having sex, but still.
And lastly, to imply that the rumor is somehow worse, or that doing porn is somehow worse, simply because it's gay is ridiculous. Also, I think it's quite offensive to say that anyone from Amour Divin would start that rumor simply because that site supports gay pairings, it's about time people stopped equating being gay with having some kind of fascination with gay sex. Sure, homosexuals have sex, but that's not what it's all about. It's love, just like anything else.
And I find it incredibly hypocritical to suggest that it would be worse for ASJ to do gay porn than just regular porn, as well as homophobic.
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Post by Richard on Jul 16, 2007 22:57:28 GMT -5
Eh.. I can't find the quote button.. lol.
I don't really know much behind the history of the rumor actually.. It's a completely mystery to me... And I'd love it if you can fill me in on it Rach.. The motive that STARTED it is probably what Sierra. How it spread has multiple factors as I've stated before..
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Post by Sreym on Jul 16, 2007 23:16:50 GMT -5
But hey, at least now they have no argument that it's actually him, everyone knows for sure!!! lol
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Post by Richard on Jul 17, 2007 0:13:35 GMT -5
Eh.. accidentally pressed "Enter."
I think lots of people just find it funny, just cuz they think it's out of character.. Cerina Vincent's role in "Not Another Teen Movie" & the Undressed episode come to mind. I think SOME people find pornography (whichever kind I honestly don't care, even though some people think I do) is lower class. If you've ever watched "Pretty Woman," you know what I mean.. What happened to whatshername in Different Strokes was interpreted that way too.. Or maybe I'm just watching too much VH1 during the summer.. And some people are homophobic and I'm not one of them... I'm a different kind of jerk.. lol
Look here's what I wrote:
Eh.. anyone that only knows 3-4 words in the theme song could be spreading the rumor.. lol. I imagine anyone from Amour Divin could've...
I didn't see an issue in what I wrote (and I'm still not sure if THIS was what I wrote that got misinterpreted); I think I got it right this time.. I dunno. Clear it up for me...
Eh.. anyone that only knows 3-4 words in the theme song could be spreading the rumor.. lol.
I imagine anyone from Amour Divin could've...
I apologize if it looks like it was written as anti-homosexual, but it definitely wasn't meant to look homosexuals look bad. It was to make people who looked like they knew Power Rangers look bad! (I hope I don't get a bad rap for this somehow, but) I also tried to make homophobic people watching homosexual porn look bad...
Eh.. I could also quote my entire thing on that "Power Ranger" headline from months ago. I just talked about the rumors. I mean you know how youtube and the "internet" can be. Some guy was randomly asking the other day if (this guy) "was the Red Ranger that went to jail?" This was the more unsuccessful rumor, but had the EXACT amount of evidence behind it till I found out yesterday.... Again, anyone who knows how, when (I doubt we'll ever know why) it started feel free to explain it to me.. cuz I have NO CLUE!
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Post by Richard on Jul 17, 2007 0:34:00 GMT -5
Wow.. I lost my connection for an hour... Not sure what time zone the forum is set to either...
Eh.. stumbled upon this after I finally finished my last long thought: Also, I think it's quite offensive to say that anyone from Amour Divin would start that rumor simply because that site supports gay pairings, it's about time people stopped equating being gay with having some kind of fascination with gay sex. Sure, homosexuals have sex, but that's not what it's all about. It's love, just like anything else. I'm sorry, Sierra. This is all my fault.. I'll try to stop thinking about it... j/k.
But hey, at least now they have no argument that it's actually him, everyone knows for sure!!! lol You're right, Syrem.. I think the board should talk more about that.. I don't want to start it yet though, cuz I am still interested behind some of the history of the rumor, if Rach has more to share about it.. I mean I don't hear too many rumors, (I don't have that many friends that talk or know much about Power Rangers), but I thought how that one spread was just crazy- I mean that one with the news headline about "some person from Power Rangers" I heard about died really quick- and it was actually on some form of newspaper, unlike this lie!
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Post by Sierra on Jul 17, 2007 1:48:24 GMT -5
Richard, were you aware that while the rumor that the original Red Ranger was a murderer was false, it was true to a certain extent? The young boy who played "Roger" in the episode where Zack and Jason helped him join Ernie's soccer team is now in prison for murder. If I misunderstood what you meant, then no hard feelings Your comments really rubbed me the wrong way, they seemed quite homophobic, but if you say that's not what you meant than I believe you.
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Post by Sreym on Jul 17, 2007 1:50:16 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just tired, but I'm getting kinda confused . . . lol. Richard, the only real issue I had with anything you said was your mention of Amour Divin. It was rather rude to single her out when even you said anyone could have started the rumor. It sounded very offensive, discredited them somewhat by making it sound like she'd just make something up like that because she has a gay site. You probably didn't mean it that way, but we didn't know how else to take it. One part that seemed anti-homosexual was when you clarified that it was gay after I'd simply said "porn". Don't see how it mattered. The rest of what you said, I can see how it could have been misinterpreted. Like I've said before, it's hard to get your point across sometimes while typing out answers! I also can't stand people like that "red ranger who went to jail" idiot, lol. They could at least look into the real story! People like that apparently don't care enough. I can't believe that case even got that much press, I mean he was like 12 and guest-starred on one ep! lol. Unfortunately the news, etc. got it wrong so much, they helped to start the rumor that it was an actual ranger. (Though any die-hard fan would know the actor's name wasn't). I think the ASJ rumor spread so well because people actually saw the evidence and thought it was true, whereas many rumors there is no evidence or it's just obviously false. People saw all there was to see (Literally! ) and they came to the conclusion that it was true. Very different kind of rumor. And don't worry, we get over things quick here, we might sound angry or whatever, but we're really not The gay thing is kind of a sensitive subject for some of us, too.
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